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    Exclamation Won't start...#@*///

    I haven't been on the bike for a couple weeks and on this fabulous 73rd birthday, it would not start! I discovered a clicking sound under the left rear seat area, which appears to be near the "turn signal relay" and then I noticed that the dash had lights but had no digital info displayed. BTW the turn signals aren't working either! I checked all of the fuses for continuity, but now trying to figure out what possible relay isn't working. Is there anyone out there that has had a similar experience? New battery installed before last ride and it still shows 12volts Plus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit 4 View Post
    I haven't been on the bike for a couple weeks and on this fabulous 73rd birthday, it would not start! I discovered a clicking sound under the left rear seat area, which appears to be near the "turn signal relay" and then I noticed that the dash had lights but had no digital info displayed. BTW the turn signals aren't working either! I checked all of the fuses for continuity, but now trying to figure out what possible relay isn't working. Is there anyone out there that has had a similar experience? New battery installed before last ride and it still shows 12volts Plus!
    It sounds to me like the battery is low. If the battery is new it should have at least a resting voltage of around 12.8 volts. As soon as you turn the key on the headlight and possibly the fuel pump really puts a load on the batt when the bike is not running. Check the voltage with the key on and see what the available voltage is for the starter to use and you might find that it is at under 12 volts. The first thing I would do is fully charge the battery then diagnose from there. I rode my bike around 8 hours ago and have a batt monitor on it and it is sitting at 12.8 volts and also the batt is 1.5 yrs old. When I turn the key on it reads 12.1 volts and starts at that voltage just fine. I keep the bike in my garage and only ride on the weekends but have always kept a battery tender on it during the week since I installed the batt to keep a full charge on it at all times. I hope this helps.
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    State of charge for 12 volt batt systems- test with engine OFF:
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    The voltage tested out at 12.8, but the clicking from the rear left panel where the turn signal relay is located makes me think that might be the source of the problem. However, I can't believe that could shutdown the instrument cluster and prevent the bike from starting, OMG! Regardless, I am pulling it out today and will replace on Monday! Thanks!

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    Thanks for the data! Mine tested out at 12.8 volts and the lights are on at full strength,go figure!

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    That 12.8 is with the engine completely off, and the lights on?
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    Did you check to see that the battery cable is tight.

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    You just recently replaced the battery so the cables may be loose like Steven said. Check all of the easy things first. Fuse 10 on the schematic is for the clock/turn so they are on the same circuit. The signal relay is powered when the key is on but should not be clicking unless the signal switch is telling it to latch or it is intermittently getting power on and off due to a loose connection also I don’t think it would prevent the starter motor from turning over.
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    I got a new battery a few weeks ago. Installed it, reading was 12.70 started up the bike all was good. I week later I go to start it and clicking sound. I forgot to turn off the radio (line on switch to hold memorry of pre-set stations, ok to leave on when riding but not over night). I jumped the bike using my car battery (do not turn on car) and the bike started. The battery with the bike running was only 11.20. Once I let the bike run I turn off the bike, hooked it up to the battery tender. After 2 days of charging the bike would not start. Battery store said it had gone to low to recharge and battery was no good. The battery tender says in the book that it will not charge a battery lower then 11. So I put it on a fast charger I use for car batterys. Still NG. I killed it.
    I got a new battery, put it on the battery tender to fully charged. Installed it in the bike. Bike starts and runs fine. Now I make sure to turn everything off and hook up the battery tender if I know the bike will be sitting over a week or more.

    I do not know if my story is the same has yours but just get a new battery. That clicking sound is from the battery being too low.
    I do not know much about batterys but I sure do know how to kill them, lol.
    hope my story helps someone, mj
    Two things I learned 1, charge new battery to full, before installing.
    2, battery tender will not charge a battery lower then 11.
    #3, (may not be true) the more you ride the longer your battery will last. That is the story I tell my wife. I got to go riding to save the battery........

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    It's true that a battery tender or any real battery charger will not charge a dead flat battery below 11. But there is a way to revive it. You need to hook up a completely fresh 100% charged battery positive to positive negative to negative and let the two equalize overnight. A daily driver car battery will work fine. Once the bad battery is above about 10.0 you can charge it. I've done it countless times on boats and bikes.
    Last edited by Glen e; 05-13-2018 at 10:49 AM.
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