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    Trouble in Paradise.

    The 2018 Goldwing has a frontend spring/shock/bumper problem. The problem is the shock, with just a passenger it is less than 1/4" travel before it hits the bumper and no more travel left in the system. Oh boy... here we go. I had a 2003 GW with the overheating and frame breaking problems Honda had to be dragged thru the NTSB in tooth and nail to get Honda to fix the problems under warranty. Here's a Youtube video of the problem. Honda Link.

    I have had several problems with Honda both cars and motorcycle that where systemic to the particular line and very expensive to fix. In both cases we had to go to the NTSB to get Honda to fix it. They weren't going to fix anything unless they were forced.

    I also noticed on the 2018 Wing Honda still uses ball bearing on the steering system rather than roller bearing. Many of us owners for the older model had to replaced the bearings around 10K miles. Ball bearings have a short life on 900 lbs. bikes. Relubricate the bearings on the 2018 looks to be a $500-$600 job to get to the bearings. All the reason Timken roller bearing should have been used.

    If I was in the GW market again I would keep my nose to the ground and not buy a Wing until Honda does the right thing and brings out a permanent fix to the shock.

    P.S. Let me add my GW steering head bearings wore seats into the race from the balls. The steering created a slight tank slap as the balls vibrated in and out of the seats in the race. The complete seat and bearings had to be replaced. Why Honda uses these bearing on such a heavy bike is beyond me.
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    I'm sure there is either not a problem or it will be fixed very very quickly...they are everywhere at bike week this year and my local dealer has a line of them probably 20 lined up to greet you as you come in the door...

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    I think you're right there is a problem with the front end when I was on a test ride the bike did bottom out. When I mention this to the other test Riders they said they would look into it and I asked if they heard about the fella in Georgia who specialized in the front end fix. There was nothing else said about it and I do not believe that they are putting anything about it it in the article.

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    I have been watching all of the videos put out by Max McAllister Traxxion Dynamics on YouTube and find them very informative. Cant help but scratch my head how a huge company like Honda with all of its resources and probably the best engineers money can buy did not have the humility or common sense to hand a prototype bike over to a company on the outside that specializes in bike suspensions and have them critique it to avoid any embarrassing missed issues before going into production and distribution. Imagine the pounding the bearings are taking every time the front end bottoms out. I would think the bottoming out may also contribute to the steering tie rod end play issues. If I were seriously shopping for one, I would show the dealer the video and ask him if its fake or real and if fake its easy enough to prove on the showroom floor with someone sitting on the bike and a cell phone camera.
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    Went over to RIVA today to look at helmets and my sales guy said they had heard about it from their customers....esp loaded two up riding.....If all this is correct, (and there's actually no doubt that it is), this will be a huge hit on the wing… Sales wise…
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    12Many I brought up my ball bearings and the seats for exactly what you posted. The pounding the bearings will wear small seats in the race. Also I do not like the fact there is no crown nut to lock down the yolk to the bike. WTF is Honda doing?

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    It will be interesting to see what if anything Honda will do about the shock travel issue. Is it defective in warranty terms or is it just simply under sprung for a 200 lb rider? According to the internet the Ave. American male weighs 195.5 lbs and an Ave. Japanese male weighs 149 lbs. A 150 lb rider might say its adequately sprung for their weight no bottoming problems no defect.

    It doesn’t appear that the shock has very much travel to begin with so if the spring rate isn’t spot on for your exact weight, the slightest amount of spring sag eats up all of the shock travel. Understanding this they should have designed some way to adjust the spring rate to suit different sized riders. With out any way to adjust the spring rate it will be hard for Honda to come up with a one size fits all solution where to correct the spring sag to satisfy a 150 , 200 , 250+ rider would all need different spring rates and in turn different dampening to suit. Maybe Honda will steal an idea from NASCAR and give you a box of different sized spring rubbers to jamb into the springs to change the spring rates as a cheap cure. The OEM replacement shock is $943.65 for an off the shelf supposedly electrically adjustable dampening shock that sucks. I wonder what it costs for Traxxion Dynamics to set the bike up correctly with a quality built shock? Even in the parts blowup the shock looks like it has hardly any travel until it hits the bump stop.

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    Going to be interesting for sure. I sent the link for the video on the front shock to a friend in a GW Club. He forwarded it to 3 members who bought the new GW. He said non of them claim to have the issue. Only time will tell, unless Honda issues a service bulletin.
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    Yeah, I don't think this is real. Did people here realize that the rear shock on the CTX700 has less than 1" of travel? REALLY! However, that 1" is run through a lever arm of the swingarm, that gives you a 4:1 increase in range-of-motion of the rear wheel. So whilst the shock moves 1", the rear wheel can move a decent 4".

    The 2018GW is the same kind of thing. It's NOT a standard tube shock - it's much more akin to the rear shock on a sport bike (or CTX). A half-inch of travel becomes 4.5" of travel because of the lengths of the lever arm. Too many people are ignoring that - and it's causing way too much consternation amongst those who really don't understand levers and such.

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    Here's a pix of the Youtube video with 1 man sitting on the bike. The travel is around 2-3mm. That's 2-3mm until the shock is no longer a shock, it's now just a spring. If I was in the market I would not buy a Wing until this issue gets resolved one way or the other. I DO NOT trust Honda at all considering what Honda did to it's customers in the past Goldwing with over heating, antifreeze spewing all over the rear wheel and frame cracking splitting in half... while your riding.
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